Below is a full analysis of the resignation of Carl Metropolitan as the Executive Director of NCI. Carl is the founder of NCI and developed it to it's status from 2005 to 2009. He was forced out of power by the Woodbury University Group members that had infiltrated his organization and had become officers of NCI. The entire scheme was orchestrated by an unlikely character - Imnotgoing Sideways (Immy).
Carl Metropolitan: "I'm resigning as Executive Director of NCI. My policy against greifer groups has resulted in the loss of the confidence of a supermajority of the NCI Board of Directors. If I were to continue running NCI, I would have to replace the Education [Afon Shepherd], Events [Gramma Fiddlesticks], and Freebie Directors [Blu Laszlo] plus the Deputy Director [Tateru Nino]. I would also have to replace a number of other vital senior officers. It would be an exercise in pure ego to stay on. I can't pretend I'm more important to NCI than all of those other people. I wish everyone at NCI the best, and I will help out as much as needed in the transition process. I will be leaving the NCI groups as I feel it is important for NCI to have one leader (which will clearly not be me). I really can not express how much I have gained from NCI and how much I appreciate all the help and effort so many people have put into it. I'm really only a small part--and that is how it should be. Thank you. Everyone."
10 STEPS TO FAIL
1- Immy went to Ross Infohub with the group Woodbury University visible in her profile.
2- Woodbury University griefers came on several occasions and griefed Prok's property.
3- Prok began banning anyone with a Woodbury University Group in their profile.
4 -Prok banned Immy because she had the WU group in her profile and she was coming on to Prok's land.
5 -Immy complained to NCI officials. Immy was told that if she dropped the WU group she could re-gain access to Ross Infohub. Immy refused.
6 -Immy and her publicist decide to discredit Prok and clear Immy's name by mass posting about the issue - Fail.
7 -NCI Exec. Director makes a no greifers allowed rule for NCI Officers because of all of the metaverse chatter (started by Immy and her publicist) regarding the issue.
8 -Immy does not like the rule and publicly complains about it and makes a public exit from NCI.
9 - NCI mob sides with Immy. Carl resigns.
10 - Immy goes back to NCI and keeps her WU membership.
Here is a quick 'cliff notes' version of what happened:
Imnotgoing Sideways (Immy)
started threads in two forums and her blog because she said she wanted opinions abut what actions to take when Prok blogged about her Woodbury University Griefer Group membership and her NCI Helper Group affiliation.
Several hundred posts later Immy's friend admitted that Immy had actually posted all over the place to discredit Prok.
QUOTE=Rinoa I didnt devise any plan. Yes I told her she should discredit prok on the claims he made against her.. Immy's credibility was falling apart on shear speculation at the time.
Immy then used the forums to discredit Carl (Founder of NCI Helper group) so she could undermine Carl's authority and overturn his upcoming 'no griefer groups allowed in profiles if your an officer of NCI' policy.
QUOTE=Imnotgoing Sideways I asked a question in a small meeting last night. “Who is the most important person to NCI?”
I was frankly quite shocked at the responses I got. The names given in reply were not all that surprising. But, in my point of view, that question is NOT supposed to be answered with any one person's name.
My answer to the question is in the name of the group itself: The New Citizen.
Do new citizens, residents, users, players (use any name you like) know anything about me? Do they know the groups I'm in? Should it matter at all?
The most important part of the New User Experience is the new user. NCI is genuinely part of the NUE and I believe it to be a disservice to hold the group and anyone within the group (including myself) responsible for anything in regards to grid oldbie politics at large.
I want to see NCI and organizations like NCI succeed in helping the new resident. And, I do not want to see oldbie politics be the cause of any group's downfall.
QUOTE=Imnotgoing Sideways I can't say I support Carl's decision because he is simply wrong. I strongly believe that Carl has made a horrible and selfish decision.
I joined NCI because the community there helped me, befriended me, welcomed me, supported me, and gave me the opportunity to give in return. Now, the leadership of this community has turned on me, documented my unwelcome, and simply ostracized me for an affiliation with a group that a few people have personal problems with.
If someone fails to understand WU, I will not allow that to become my problem.
I still love and embrace the helper and volunteer community. I wish for the NCI community the best of success. But, I see that such a thing can't exist as long as there is this hierarchy of 'directors' and 'executives' who have their own personal vendettas to teeter with at the expense of the group.
Immy's campaign successfully turned Carl's officers against him and he resigned. Immy returned to NCI and Carl's no griefer rule was thrown out. Hostile takeover complete.
But then it is revealed that the no greifer rule had already been imposed upon Immy by Desmond Shang and she complied without protest. I assume she realized there was no way she could de-throne Desmond.
QUOTE=Imnotgoing Sideways My decision to hide all groups was actually quite compliant to Desmond's request in regards to Caledon volunteers. He was quite clear about this in meetings and Emails. It was the display of the group affiliation that he didn't want. He openly stated a number of times that he didn't start a witch hunt.
I simply saw that his decisions didn't affect me, given the solution provided, and that I don't visit Caledon land enough at any capacity for there to be a problem.
So she hid groups for Desmond but refused to do so for Carl.
Also posts after posts from Immy claiming Woodbury University was not a griefer group and then this finally where Immy admits she knows the people that grifed Prok were Woodbury University Members.
QUOTE=Imnotgoing Sideways Considering; the chicken killers are not only ejected from the group, but, they're also on the sandbox banlist. One would say, they wore out their welcome by pulling a stupid stunt against Prok. (=_=)
So what was thinly disguised as Immy's public pity party was actually an attempt to discredit Prok, remove the new NCI rule and whitewash Woodbury Univeristy.
Most people do not give Prok any credit so you cannot discredit her and Immy admitted Woodbury griefed Prok last week.
But Immy did manage to remove the no griefer rule NCI put in place.
And Prok's truth
QUOTE=Prokofy Neva Oh, I see we've established here that Imnotgoing Sideways *deliberately* set up Carl and *deliberately* forced the issue here twice -- that lets me know that this may well be all part of a plan, and it's a plan of Woodbury as a conspiracy to harass and bully good groups and tear them down and take them over, Boslhevik displacement tactics at work. And even if it does not in fact turn out to be such an elaborate criminal conspiracy, it's about one petulant and stubborn "little girl" (ageplaying man) whining and throwing drama tantrums to whore for attention.
Just look at Img's profile inworld. It's totally disgusting ageplay edgecasing, trying to ride below the radar with blatant suggestiveness that is merely pushing the edge out further on the whole ageplay issue to undermine principles of morality and the Linden TOS.
Someone put it well on my blog: Img was whitewashing not only himself and his ageplaying but trying to whitewash Woodbury -- to which he clung with strangely fierce tribal tenacity, given that supposedly NCI was more important and helping newbs was more important than riding shotgun on griefing raids which is what he was doing.
Remember the steps on this process -- I banned Img from several places because *he came along after, or with, people griefing events deliberately, who were repeat offenders* -- not once, not twice, but a number of times. Then yet another time right before an event, I caught him *again* at the NCI Node in Ross goofing around with a bunch of people who were making those kind of below-the-radar hazing comments to newbies that are just mean.
I told Carl I was banning Img from Ross, and Img could find some other place to practice his, um, newbie helping. Carl simply respected my decision but said he wouldnt' remove her from the group at first because he personally had no reason to do so, but only knew that of course Woodbury was a griefing group.
Img himself then escalated it, flouncing around, whining about justice on her blog waaahahahah blah blah, claiming first that she came alone to the meetings -- remaining utterly silent about the time she came most emphatically with a group with Intlibber, Tizzy, and Cam Mitchell who deliberately put out textures and prims to replicate and grief the event there I had on Iran -- quite deliberately, an not as "participants in the discussion," let's get real here. Img is curiously silent on *that* one because he's fucking little pathological liar.
He then whined that he would hide his groups -- like...that makes a diffrence? Why the fuck couldn't he LEAVE Woodbury that was well documented as griefing? He couldn't, because it was a) either a stealth operation to infiltrate a good group and take it over and sanitize the discredited Woodbury or b) a whiney belligerent operation to just do what the fuck he felt like doing regardless of what happened to a good group.
Carl and Desmond Shang then acquired additional reasons not to wish to countenance Woodbury. I myself was surprised at Carl's decision to issue a statement saying that no one could remain in NCI who was in a hate group, and he listed the Woodbury groups. He cited the way they were behaving on my blog -- and that's good enough reason for normal civilized people to cut the cord with their addlebrained liberalism and stubborn extreme technocommunist morality (Tateru Nino on that one). Tateru clearly took a hyper PC approach to this pretending that there was all innocence and no guilt by association and no need to disassociate with the guilty. Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Half the board resigned, and Carl felt that without a vote of confidence he should resign, too. The digusting little dysfunctional IMG then comes running back to "help newbies" again -- read "fan my ego and gloat over having destroyed good people".
Really evil shit.
As for these fucking chicken killers here, they continue to lie and distract and agitate falsely about the actual nature of this product and their actions.
No, it is not the intention of the creator to have them die by being deliberately pushed off world or shot. That is not in the cards. He has them die by different means but certainly that is not in his menu. He doesn't even write about such a turn of events in his voluminous EULAs and notecards because there isn't any way for the creatures to walk off world because you *home* them near their food bowls/cages etc you first put them out, and he gives instructions on them. I've tested them for days -- they do not wander off world unless physically pushed or orbited with a gun.
So Phausk deliberately coming and doing that is a grade-A asshole, and has no right to destroy property. Saying the creator intended it to be so would be like saying the Creator of people intended them to die by His script, and therefore it's ok to shoot them to death. Nihilist claptrap and a reason why people like this need to be banned, warned and removed from Second Life if they continue this activity because they are decivilizers.
It is not AT ALL true that only "a few people" have problems with Woodbury. Multiple people do -- it's just they don't speak up. Woodbury and their related PN and W-hat goons constantly fly around harassing all the usual targets of the 4chan mania -- furries, Christians, people they think are taking SL or themselves too seriously. They are profoundly reactionary conservatives with a deeply Puritanical notion of how the Internet should be used and they will stop at nothing to prevent others from using it freely for their freely chosen free purposes.
So I wish more peoploe would understand THIS. Little fucked-up nonentities like this 21-year-old Canadian chicken killer Phausk do not get to decide what is valuable and what is not valuable regarding people's possessions and their private property.
The idiotic Randian ravings of Intlibber about how everyone should have their sims locked down like the GULAG or they themselves are guilty of any griefing also have to be disregarded. The Internet is not going to be turned into a giant kolkhoz, because the grownups will not pay for it.
Destroying other people's property and evading bans and continuing to harass them *is* a TOS violation for sure, on several grounds; the idea that because chickens *can* be pushed off world and die that therefore "it's ok" belongs to that same communist opera as "I can copy it so it's ok to steal it".
Phausk and a long list of other people in Woodbury and related groups have repeatdly harassed me and they will continue to be reported. What a little police informing stool pidgeon type that Phausk, a hateful little fucktard, would report *me* for asking normal questions of Rodney Linden. I put up a vote proposal in his group and asked: did Rodney Linden chalk BAN PROK?
Later, I got it on good authority that he did not, but that it was more likely Plastic Duck and Meif Ling -- but Loki Clifton keeps giggling that Lindens did it. We may not find out, but Lindens were said to be present.
Tizzers and Intlibber both lied that Philip gave them permissions to come chalk up the building; they made it sound like he encouraged them to park the party bus there as well. But he gave me a statement that is printed on my blog that puts it quite differently; the street is a public street and he didn't say no to them parking there, and in fact added that they could not get a tour because it would be a Saturday. He knew nothing and said nothing about chalking. Other Lindens on the premises apparently indulged their friends in Woodbury in the chalking. Yet another "turnout Woodbury" tells the story that the chalking was only supposed to be on the sidewalk.
What does it matter? It doesn't. It's only chalk. If a drink-waving Robert Bloomfield wants to victory-dance and pose in front of BAN PROK! in a Second Life experience because real-life never gave him any achievements, evidently, it's pathetic, not something to be "angry" about. The entire thing is about losers being indulged by other losers.
My only concern is that when the Lindens let some of their staff go feral on some of the customers just to narf-narf with other little FIC pals, they create a climate of impunity that means I am griefed more -- and ultimately, the publicity around their indulgence of this nonsense is a bad thing.
Rodney Linden behaved insolently and nastily when he was TP'd into Ross, which I maintain, and when I asked him if he helped griefers, he started shoving a bear on me.
Some Lindens indeed are going feral -- out of sense of impunity. There is evidence of this on a number of fronts. The question is: why? Too big? Too poorly trained? Bad choices of sourcing for hires that have to do with friendship networks of big bosses and not scrutiny of actual qualifications and background?
And...why do we care what the character is of employees of a software company? Because they claim their mission is to "connect us all to...a better world". It's not just some company; it has greater aspirations, and even if it is taken over by something bigger or evolves into something else, it matters what kind of ethics DNA is present now.
Links to the sources of this data - for those that would like to wade through it all to reach their own conclusions.
Prok blogs about Woodbury University Group members harassing her and includes Immy's name in it.
1. August 19th: http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2009/08/ban-woodbury.html
Immy starts her campaign to discredit Prok. Immy makes sure to post where Prok could not respond (Prok cannot post in SLU or SL forums or Immy's Blog. Immy made sure she did not post these accusations in Second Citizen - where Prok can post.
2. August 20th: http://imnotgoingsideways.blogspot.com/2009/08/my-3-bans.html
3. August 22nd: http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=336018
4. August 22nd: http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/general-sl-discussion/33422-we-human-we-griefer.html
Prok follows up with this blog post
5. August 22nd: http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/second_thoughts/2009/08/the-woodbury-conspiracy.html
I am adding some discussion with Rinoa - a Immy supporter. She argues with no ground to stand on.
I just need to shush this constant "you dont go on to a parcel you know your not welcome on" or "you dont get banned for not griefing 3 times"...
In Immy's blog Bri states Immy told her she was going to get banned for coming onto Prok's land with a Woodbury University group affiliation visible in her profile. This was in July - why go back in August after you are banned twice for the same thing from the same person?
This is pretty much self admitance that she was banned for her group and ONLY her group.
Rinoa, that is OK, also. Prok posted chat logs where she told Beverly that all Immy had to do was to drop the Woodbury University group and she could have the ban lifted. Immy refused and decided to follow the advice of her Propaganda Czar and start the public campaign that caused Carl's resignation.
and Prok's own words kills that one since she has a different accusation for this location to which Immy truely has flatly denied.
Immy said she posted the OP to get advice and you said she posted it on your advice to discredit Prok. So Immy has re-invented the truth before to make herself look innocent.
We already practically got admitance from Prok that Immy didnt actually do any griefings other than turn up... which isnt a griefing. Immy didnt drop any replicating cubes, or partical spammers, she's accused of being with a group who did all these things... and the above quote is convincing enough that this is how she was associated with those specific people.
Agreed. People who are Woodbury University grifers greifed Prok and Immy was there (and also has a Woodbury University group displayed in her profile). So Prok banned all Woodbury University members present.
Is this really any reason for you and Immy to start your campaign against Prok? I have to say it is not.
in regards to knowing about being banned, the first and last are self explainitory, 1st ban location was an NCI Info node, we get LMs to these in group notices, how would you know it's prok's land, you expect it to be part of NCI landholdings
Hey, that's OK. Once Prok explained it to Beverly then you knew. So why go on any further with it?
3rd she was teleported in by friends... to a fricken Info Hub... to an NCI Freebie wall in an info hub, and doing so as an NCI official.
I didnt even know it was prok's till now... and Immy has already flatly stated she thought it was on NCI land at least once and you accepted that.
What part of no Woodbury University members allowed on land Prok has control over is unclear to you? Again, once Immy knew (august 11th), she should have dropped the WU group or not gone to that infonode anymore. Not start a public war.
Immy probably got all depressed about the NCI node ban in May, she's prone to that... she'll blaim herself, heck she even did so on that third ban
She should blame herself. It was her fault.
as for the second ban I'll question Immy myself in regards to knowing prok would ban her. However it's still not griefing to turn up to an openly advertised discussion. there's nothing wrong with taking the risk in turning up with full intention to take part, I mean you never know she may... just by chance, be allowed to take part.
Rinoa, why do you people feel you have the right to enter a parcel that you do not pay for and is not in your name? This sense of entitlement is what twisted you both into thinking up this hair-brain scheme.
Originally Posted by Briana(from Immy's 3ban blog comments
After a min or so she indicated that while the proposed discussion interested her...she mite well be banned on sight. When I asked why, she said it mite be cause of her group listing.
NOW as for some discussion "in Iran" (as prok put it... confused me for quite a while that, I couldnt find a sim called iran ^ ^), well he clearly stated THREE bans... and there are only THREE documented bans. None of which took place "in" or "about" Iran.
Your dizzy. It was a political discussion about the actual Iran. Prok holds chats about socio-political issues on her land.
sorry but I really felt the need to stick up for my friend there... I've had that quote for days U.U
You go right ahead, Propaganda Czar. Don't worry about people that Immy's nonsense effected - just keep the spin spinning.
There SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A THIRD BAN OF IMMY FROM LAND PROK CONTROLLED.
And once Immy realized the land was prok's - She should have dropped the issue or drop the griefer group. Immy did not present the entire truth when she posted this all over the place.
Instead Immy posted what a great person she was, what a monster Prok was and how wrong and selfish Carl is.
i'm NOT critisizing how prok manages his events, if he feels the need to ban individuals for any reason, so be it...
You should have explained that to Immy in a way that she could have understood it as opposed to telling her to discredit Prok publicly. You convinced her to do as Desmond wanted and hide the Woodbury University group in her profile when she was at Caledron Oxford.
The reason she went to Sutherland Dam was innocent, she clearly wasnt with anyone who was griefing
When your banned twice from someone's land because you are a member of a group that has grief builds adjacent to that land and who's members are constantly harassing and griefing there - and go back AGAIN - your asking for another ban and your being intentionally annoying.
so does appearing at an open public event with "SL Mentor" above her name, spite having woodbury university in her profile groups, count as griefing worthy of public ridecule?
And this is why Carl made the rule 'no griefer group members can be officers in NCI". Because people like Immy like to hide behind the good reputation of groups like NCI and SL Mentor and continue their association with groups that harm people. make tier payers loose money and throw racists titles all over the place.